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		<title>By: cb</title>
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		<dc:creator>cb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bit late to post this, but just wanted to point out that your ex-husband&#039;s anger and inability to forgive your decision to divorce after HIS affair and lack of serious contrition are just another symptom of the same personality trait that allowed him to do something so cruel and selfish as having an affair to begin with.  Until he changes that part of him, if he can (and it may take serious, intense counseling), he will continue to discount his wrongs and how they contributed to your reactions, and continue to try to make you out to be the &#039;bad&#039; one and &#039;blame&#039; you for the consequences of his actions.  (and/or he will do this in his next relationship, and later with the children, and so on, and so on...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bit late to post this, but just wanted to point out that your ex-husband&#8217;s anger and inability to forgive your decision to divorce after HIS affair and lack of serious contrition are just another symptom of the same personality trait that allowed him to do something so cruel and selfish as having an affair to begin with.  Until he changes that part of him, if he can (and it may take serious, intense counseling), he will continue to discount his wrongs and how they contributed to your reactions, and continue to try to make you out to be the &#8216;bad&#8217; one and &#8216;blame&#8217; you for the consequences of his actions.  (and/or he will do this in his next relationship, and later with the children, and so on, and so on&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: abercrombie</title>
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		<dc:creator>abercrombie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 12:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very frequently I go to this website. It very much is pleasant to me. Thanks the author</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very frequently I go to this website. It very much is pleasant to me. Thanks the author</p>
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		<title>By: Family Affairs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Family Affairs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much Francesca - really not sure what else to do with it though Lx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much Francesca &#8211; really not sure what else to do with it though Lx</p>
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		<title>By: Francesca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francesca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you realise what a very important and fantastic post this is. Can&#039;t help thinking that you should do more with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you realise what a very important and fantastic post this is. Can&#8217;t help thinking that you should do more with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Family Affairs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Family Affairs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a very mature approach - I hadn&#039;t thought about having to forgive yourself for compromising your beliefs on forgiving an adulterer - it&#039;s all about perspective - if he&#039;s sorry and seems to you to be doing all he can to work it out and that is working for you then bloody brilliant.  You see it as his failing and nothing to do with you which is admirable - I was far too immature to look at it like that.  Took it way too personally.  Lx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a very mature approach &#8211; I hadn&#8217;t thought about having to forgive yourself for compromising your beliefs on forgiving an adulterer &#8211; it&#8217;s all about perspective &#8211; if he&#8217;s sorry and seems to you to be doing all he can to work it out and that is working for you then bloody brilliant.  You see it as his failing and nothing to do with you which is admirable &#8211; I was far too immature to look at it like that.  Took it way too personally.  Lx</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in the process of trying to save my marriage. I am &#039;lucky&#039; in that my husband is working very hard at finding out why he did what he did. He knows that even if I die tomorrow, he still has to find out why he did what he did - to make him grow from this destructive behaviour. The affair and the healing has nothing to do with me. I am here as his friend to help him through it. As for me, sometimes I am philosophical and think I can forgive - he is human, he made a mistake, put myself in his shoes etc. Sometimes I want to kill him. slowly. But that is my process and we work through it with professional help. It sounds to me FA like your ex hasn&#039;t forgiven himself - he is displacing that on to you because you took real action to change your life. And in his remarriage finding another comfort zone where he doesn&#039;t have to take responsibility for his own actions. So maybe that is the first step in truly understanding what forgiveness is - to forgive yourself. I will one day forgive myself for compromising my beliefs by trying to forgive an adulterer. But I will only do it once. And I hope one day to move so past it that I don&#039;t throw it in his face at every opportunity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in the process of trying to save my marriage. I am &#8216;lucky&#8217; in that my husband is working very hard at finding out why he did what he did. He knows that even if I die tomorrow, he still has to find out why he did what he did &#8211; to make him grow from this destructive behaviour. The affair and the healing has nothing to do with me. I am here as his friend to help him through it. As for me, sometimes I am philosophical and think I can forgive &#8211; he is human, he made a mistake, put myself in his shoes etc. Sometimes I want to kill him. slowly. But that is my process and we work through it with professional help. It sounds to me FA like your ex hasn&#8217;t forgiven himself &#8211; he is displacing that on to you because you took real action to change your life. And in his remarriage finding another comfort zone where he doesn&#8217;t have to take responsibility for his own actions. So maybe that is the first step in truly understanding what forgiveness is &#8211; to forgive yourself. I will one day forgive myself for compromising my beliefs by trying to forgive an adulterer. But I will only do it once. And I hope one day to move so past it that I don&#8217;t throw it in his face at every opportunity!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Storey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Storey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am afraid that I am in the forgive but never forget camp, the flip side is that if someone does something for me I may not smother them in kisses but I never forget.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am afraid that I am in the forgive but never forget camp, the flip side is that if someone does something for me I may not smother them in kisses but I never forget&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Family Affairs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Family Affairs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How brilliant to have a different angle and of course it&#039;s fine to be anonymous.  I feel very reassured that you are in a stronger marriage, but without the change of balance.  I knew in my heart i would never be able not to bring up what he&#039;d done at any given opportunity.  It changed everything for me.  Maybe I was very immature, or maybe our marriage wasn&#039;t strong enough.  Who knows.  Lx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How brilliant to have a different angle and of course it&#8217;s fine to be anonymous.  I feel very reassured that you are in a stronger marriage, but without the change of balance.  I knew in my heart i would never be able not to bring up what he&#8217;d done at any given opportunity.  It changed everything for me.  Maybe I was very immature, or maybe our marriage wasn&#8217;t strong enough.  Who knows.  Lx</p>
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		<title>By: Karin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heavy stuff.  And hard to be honest with oneself about.

I believe that forgiveness, or lack thereof, has a much bigger impact on the forgiver than on the one forgiven.  If we carry around emotional baggage, it&#039;s on our backs.  But genuinely putting it down involves taking responsibility for our own lives and happiness.  It means having the courage to take action, to focus on what it is that we actually control, and face the potential upheaval that comes with the resulting change.  - I&#039;m not really at this point in my own life, but I want to be.

I agree on the forgetting - if we forget, we don&#039;t learn.  When something like a betrayal happens, there&#039;s a lot to learn from - about ourselves and our partners.  Forgetting almost seems like pretending nothing happened, and that can&#039;t possibly be sustainable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heavy stuff.  And hard to be honest with oneself about.</p>
<p>I believe that forgiveness, or lack thereof, has a much bigger impact on the forgiver than on the one forgiven.  If we carry around emotional baggage, it&#8217;s on our backs.  But genuinely putting it down involves taking responsibility for our own lives and happiness.  It means having the courage to take action, to focus on what it is that we actually control, and face the potential upheaval that comes with the resulting change.  &#8211; I&#8217;m not really at this point in my own life, but I want to be.</p>
<p>I agree on the forgetting &#8211; if we forget, we don&#8217;t learn.  When something like a betrayal happens, there&#8217;s a lot to learn from &#8211; about ourselves and our partners.  Forgetting almost seems like pretending nothing happened, and that can&#8217;t possibly be sustainable.</p>
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		<title>By: Family Affairs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Family Affairs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mud - very good reply and how awful it was for you but also how reassuring to know that things can and have got better Lx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mud &#8211; very good reply and how awful it was for you but also how reassuring to know that things can and have got better Lx</p>
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